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January 7, 2018

I feel like iPhone X should've been way more popular

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Coffeebeanz 8 hours ago#1
I get that it was given a premium price but usually new Apple stuff has relatively price inelastic sales
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Error1355 8 hours ago#2
$1K+ for a cell phone that they want you to replace in a year or two is insane for the majority of consumers.
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josifrees 8 hours ago#3
People have same old shit fatigue at this point 

Where is the ghost of Steve jobs when you need to spend your money on some dumb shit
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Coffeebeanz 8 hours ago#4
Error1355 posted...
$1K+ for a cell phone that they want you to replace in a year or two is insane for the majority of consumers.


It's not even the only $1k cellphone though
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The more expensive these phones become (even a $500 phone is now considered midgrade) with yearly incremental updates, people have less of a reason to upgrade. They will instead hold onto their current phone for longer.
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PiOverlord 7 hours ago#6
Apple must DIE!
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MangaFan462 7 hours ago#7
Problem was Apple released the iPhone 8 a few months before it.

Most people already upgraded their iPhone before the X came out.
spikethedevil 7 hours ago#8
Coffeebeanz posted...
Error1355 posted...
$1K+ for a cell phone that they want you to replace in a year or two is insane for the majority of consumers.


It's not even the only $1k cellphone though


He never said it was but Apple purposfully rig their phones so they slow down after a set time.
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GigaSPX 6 hours ago#9
Let's not forget that even for a $1k smartphone, it suffers the same major CPU exploit with the rest of the iPhones, iPads, and Macs Apple has ever released. 

Although Android has sort of the same issues, the security patches will not impact performance as provided by Google. Can't say the same for everything else.
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Go_Totodile 6 hours ago#10
It hardly has enough extra features to justify buying it over an 8.
LinksLiege 6 hours ago#11
spikethedevil posted...
He never said it was but Apple purposfully rig their phones so they slow down after a set time.

Not to mention the other obvious disadvantages over most of the other ultra-flagships, lack of headphone jack and microSD support.
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The Admiral 6 hours ago#12
I don't know how anyone at Apple thought the notch at the top was a good idea.
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Go_Totodile 6 hours ago#13
The Admiral posted...
I don't know how anyone at Apple thought the notch at the top was a good idea.

"courage"
Coffeebeanz 5 hours ago#14
The Admiral posted...
I don't know how anyone at Apple thought the notch at the top was a good idea.


I think they argued that it allowed the bezel-less design

They kind of ignored the fact that the other bezel-less 2017 smartphones had higher screen to body ratios
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GigaSPX 5 hours ago#15
Coffeebeanz posted...
The Admiral posted...
I don't know how anyone at Apple thought the notch at the top was a good idea.


I think they argued that it allowed the bezel-less design

They kind of ignored the fact that the other bezel-less 2017 smartphones had higher screen to body ratios

Lol ignored. We're talking about Apple here. Whatever they put out, they think they're innovating the most.
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FightingGames 5 hours ago#16
Error1355 posted...
$1K+ for a cell phone that they want you to replace in a year or two is insane for the majority of consumers.

it's ok. People are willing to spend $120 every month on a 3 year contact to get the iPhone X for "free"
JE19426 5 hours ago#17
Coffeebeanz posted...
It's not even the only $1k cellphone though


What other $1k phones are their?
Bio1590  thinks i work at mcd5 hours ago#18
You still have to pay $600 for it with a contract in Canada. Fuck that.

Also I play around with it every time I stop by Best Buy or go to a carrier's store and I just can't bring myself to like it.
Bio1590  thinks i work at mcd5 hours ago#19
JE19426 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
It's not even the only $1k cellphone though


What other $1k phones are their?

The Note 8 is $1300 in Canada off-contract
Smashingpmkns 5 hours ago#20
Their major selling point in their marketing right now is being able to unlock your phone with your face lol
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MrDrMan 5 hours ago#21
Face ID is dumb. I’m black. In low lighting scenarios I doubt it’d be reliable.
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Coffeebeanz 5 hours ago#22
MrDrMan posted...
Face ID is dumb. I’m black. In low lighting scenarios I doubt it’d be reliable.


It uses infrared fyi
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Coffeebeanz posted...
I think they argued that it allowed the bezel-less design

I dont think they argued they needed it for a bezel-less design in general, just bezel-less with the FaceID stuff in there too. They either needed to drop FaceID, have a top bezel(albeit a fairly small one) or have "the notch"

but "the notch" also gives them another unique silhouette to use for branding/marketing(like the classic iPhone silhouette which was basically the de facto "smartphone" silhouette)

w/r/t popularity, I've personally heard a lot of people talk about how they don't want an X over an 8/8 Plus because it drops the home button, so it'll be interesting to me to see if the X holdouts swap to Android in 2-3 years once it filters down to the mainline iPhones or if they'll buy it and just complain. I think Apple really fucked up the X by making it a black sheep for this cycle of iPhones and it might totally undermine the reworking they're trying to do, especially if they don't move every model of iPhone to the bezel-less model of the X next year.
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Bryfang 5 hours ago#24
MrDrMan posted...
Face ID is dumb. I’m black. In low lighting scenarios I doubt it’d be reliable.

As a fellow black guy, it is reliable, even in pure darkness. The only time it gets annoying is the angles. It doesn’t like it when I hold the phone too high, I gotta be pretty particular with the angles which makes unlocking when I’m laying down kinda annoying. Still, I like it a lot more than I thought I would and don’t miss Touch ID at all.
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GigaSPX 5 hours ago#25
MrDrMan posted...
Face ID is dumb. I’m black. In low lighting scenarios I doubt it’d be reliable.

Speaking of which about Face ID flaws, it doesn't work well for Asians as well, Reports mainly coming from China where these (twin?) sisters can unlock the same phone, and also other similar stories as well. >_>
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Coffeebeanz 5 hours ago#26
halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
I think they argued that it allowed the bezel-less design

I dont think they argued they needed it for a bezel-less design in general, just bezel-less with the FaceID stuff in there too. They either needed to drop FaceID, have a top bezel(albeit a fairly small one) or have "the notch"

but "the notch" also gives them another unique silhouette to use for branding/marketing(like the classic iPhone silhouette which was basically the de facto "smartphone" silhouette)

w/r/t popularity, I've personally heard a lot of people talk about how they don't want an X over an 8/8 Plus because it drops the home button, so it'll be interesting to me to see if the X holdouts swap to Android in 2-3 years once it filters down to the mainline iPhones or if they'll buy it and just complain. I think Apple really fucked up the X by making it a black sheep for this cycle of iPhones and it might totally undermine the reworking they're trying to do, especially if they don't move every model of iPhone to the bezel-less model of the X next year.


They could've copied Samsung's method of making the home button a pressure sensitive click under the screen

But that would have been consumer friendly
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Removing the fingerprint scanner was by far one of the dumbest ideas. 

The way Google put it on their Pixel is absolutely perfect
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J E S U S 5 hours ago#28
The notch isn’t even noticeable anymore

I forget it’s there

I’m just unhappy they took out the 128gb option

I’m now stuck with 160+ Free space
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Mikablu  ATTACK5 hours ago#29
GigaSPX posted...
MrDrMan posted...
Face ID is dumb. I’m black. In low lighting scenarios I doubt it’d be reliable.

Speaking of which about Face ID flaws, it doesn't work well for Asians as well, Reports mainly coming from China where these (twin?) sisters can unlock the same phone, and also other similar stories as well. >_>

Not even twin sisters. One story has a woman's coworker who kinda looks sorta similar being able to unlock her phone.
Coffeebeanz 5 hours ago#30
J E S U S posted...
The notch isn’t even noticeable anymore

I forget it’s there


Doesn't mean it's a good design choice
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Bio1590  thinks i work at mcd5 hours ago#31
Sack_Pickscott posted...
Removing the fingerprint scanner was by far one of the dumbest ideas. 

The way Google put it on their Pixel is absolutely perfect

Change the Apple logo on the back so it contains a fingerprint sensor. Make it useful!
Coffeebeanz 5 hours ago#32
Sack_Pickscott posted...
Removing the fingerprint scanner was by far one of the dumbest ideas. 

The way Google put it on their Pixel is absolutely perfect


IIRC Motorola pioneered the scanner on the back thing.
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Coffeebeanz 5 hours ago#33
Bio1590 posted...
Sack_Pickscott posted...
Removing the fingerprint scanner was by far one of the dumbest ideas. 

The way Google put it on their Pixel is absolutely perfect

Change the Apple logo on the back so it contains a fingerprint sensor. Make it useful!


That might smudge the logo!
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Wetterdew 5 hours ago#34
MrDrMan posted...
Face ID is dumb. I’m black. In low lighting scenarios I doubt it’d be reliable.

Your skin tone is irrelevant since it uses infrared light, not visible spectrum light.
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GigaSPX 5 hours ago#35
Mikablu posted...
GigaSPX posted...
MrDrMan posted...
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Speaking of which about Face ID flaws, it doesn't work well for Asians as well, Reports mainly coming from China where these (twin?) sisters can unlock the same phone, and also other similar stories as well. >_>

Not even twin sisters. One story has a woman's coworker who kinda looks sorta similar being able to unlock her phone.

Exactly how much a POS the iPhone X is for $1000 to have a flaw like this. No excuse about it being "the first of its kind right now so it'll have some bugs and etc". It's not chump change to have a flaw like this.
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Bio1590  thinks i work at mcd5 hours ago#36
GigaSPX posted...
Mikablu posted...
GigaSPX posted...
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Not even twin sisters. One story has a woman's coworker who kinda looks sorta similar being able to unlock her phone.

Exactly how much a POS the iPhone X is for $1000 to have a flaw like this. No excuse about it being "the first of its kind right now so it'll have some bugs and etc". It's not chump change to have a flaw like this.

From their own security guide:

"The probability that a random person in the population could look at your iPhone X and unlock it using Face ID is approximately 1 in 1,000,000 (versus 1 in 50,000 for Touch ID)."
The removal of Touch ID was a deal breaker. 

With my S8+, I like having multiple ways to unlock my device and authenticate purchases. The iris scanner works in the dark, with glasses, and works in the dark with glasses. All I do is look at the phone and it takes me to the home screen. No swipe needed.

The fingerprint scanner on the back has gotten criticism for its placement. Doesn't bother me because my phone has a case where the scanner is separated from the camera lens by a ridge, so I never get them mixed up. 

Facial recognition is less secure, so I don't bother with it.
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littlebro07 5 hours ago#38
Launching the iPhone 8 a couple months earlier was a stupid decision. The 8 shouldn't even exist, it's just a slightly better 7. 

I know two people who got the iPhone X. They're die hard Apple fanboys. They both regret buying it.
StopPosting 5 hours ago#39
So TC how many iPhone Xs have you purchased already? 10? 20? Such a waste of money too since you’ll buy another 50 smartphones next week.
Coffeebeanz posted...
Sack_Pickscott posted...
Removing the fingerprint scanner was by far one of the dumbest ideas. 

The way Google put it on their Pixel is absolutely perfect


IIRC Motorola pioneered the scanner on the back thing.

Even so, it's probably the smartest way to do it if you're trying to go bezel-less. Face ID is not. Face ID should be, at most, a 3rd way to unlock your phone outside of a pin, not only one of two
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wdlp 5 hours ago#41
1k on any phone is ridiculous. 
What you gonna do with it? Shit post on here, complain about Facebook but still compulsively check it every 5 mins.
Play fucking pokemon go.

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Bio1590  thinks i work at mcd4 hours ago#42
littlebro07 posted...
Launching the iPhone 8 a couple months earlier was a stupid decision. The 8 shouldn't even exist, it's just a slightly better 7. 

I know two people who got the iPhone X. They're die hard Apple fanboys. They both regret buying it.

I don't know why they didn't make the 8/8+ the 7S/7S+. Fuck how many changes doe the 8 even have from the 6S?
Bio1590 posted...
I don't know why they didn't make the 8/8+ the 7S/7S+. Fuck how many changes doe the 8 even have from the 6S?

the 8/8 Plus is different enough to be its own number since they did the traditional external redesign for them at least

the 7/7 Plus existing is the real stupid thing since they were basically just 6S/6S Plus Turbo edition(no longer ft. 3.5mm jack)
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Bio1590  thinks i work at mcd4 hours ago#44
Also, the 8 is still only 1334x750 and the 8+ is 1920x1080. Actual joke.
MrDrMan 4 hours ago#45
Sack_Pickscott posted...
Removing the fingerprint scanner was by far one of the dumbest ideas. 

The way Google put it on their Pixel is absolutely perfect


This. Even if Face ID does work pretty accurately Touch ID should have been kept.
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Bio1590  thinks i work at mcd4 hours ago#46
halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
I don't know why they didn't make the 8/8+ the 7S/7S+. Fuck how many changes doe the 8 even have from the 6S?

the 8/8 Plus is different enough to be its own number since they did the traditional external redesign for them at least

the 7/7 Plus existing is the real stupid thing since they were basically just 6S/6S Plus Turbo edition(no longer ft. 3.5mm jack)

What did they change externally outside of the camera? All iPhone 7 cases fit the iPhone 8 and all 6 cases would fit 8 outside of the camera. There's no major redesign.
Face ID only registers one face so if you're a married couple who likes to access each other's phone, you need to do it via pin. Touch ID at least allowed multiple prints.
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K181 4 hours ago#48
Their commercials only seem to advertise three things:

1) A great screen - okay, good selling point.
2) Face ID - actually kind of creepy to most consumers.
3) Animojis - just flat out annoying to most consumers.

So, is it shocking if there's not really much interest?
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Krojen 4 hours ago#49
halomonkey1_3_5 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
I think they argued that it allowed the bezel-less design
"the notch" also gives them another unique silhouette to use for branding/marketing(like the classic iPhone silhouette which was basically the de facto "smartphone" silhouette)

Yep, I believe the notch is mostly a stupid branding exercise.

As far as it not being popular/priced too high, anecdotally, I see it everywhere. Most of my friends that are broke have it too. Getting it is just another 5-10 bucks a month on their plan. I think that's how most of the American market looks at it.

I'm more pissed that Android manufacturers aren't doing enough to take advantage of Apple's hubris. Google is clearly using cheap leftovers for hardware since they don't have a manufacturing presence yet. Samsung still has a ways to go with software and they've even regressed in some ways since the S6, especially with the camera. No other companies matter.
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Bio1590 posted...
Also, the 8 is still only 1334x750 and the 8+ is 1920x1080. Actual joke.

wait seriously? my nexus 6 that i got like 3 years ago had a quad HD screen and they're still playing catch-up to that?
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    Bio1590  thinks i work at mcd4 hours ago#51
    KnightofShikari posted...
    Bio1590 posted...
    Also, the 8 is still only 1334x750 and the 8+ is 1920x1080. Actual joke.

    wait seriously? my nexus 6 that i got like 3 years ago had a quad HD screen and they're still playing catch-up to that?

    Yes seriously. The screens have been the same resolution since the iPhone 6. Only the X is above 1920x1080.
    Cleo_II 4 hours ago#52
    I have no desire for a $1000 phone when mine works just fine. The only people I’ve seen piss their pants over it are the kind of people that just absolutely need to have the latest gadget to feel relevant somehow.
    donkeyjack 4 hours ago#53
    Cleo_II posted...
    I have no desire for a $1000 phone when mine works just fine. The only people I’ve seen piss their pants over it are the kind of people that just absolutely need to have the latest gadget to feel relevant somehow.


    You go, Cleo!!!!
    littlebro07 4 hours ago#54
    K181 posted...
    Their commercials only seem to advertise three things:

    1) A great screen - okay, good selling point.
    2) Face ID - actually kind of creepy to most consumers.
    3) Animojis - just flat out annoying to most consumers.

    So, is it shocking if there's not really much interest?


    That animoji commercial keeps coming on when I'm using Hulu and it makes me want to punch walls.
    green butter 4 hours ago#55
    anyone who spends $1k+ on a cell phone is a moron
    WaffIeElite 3 hours ago#56
    Here I am sticking with my Note 4, it's awesome battery life, removable battery, removable SD card, headphone jack, and access to better apps because it's not a shitty, restrictive Apple phone.
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    kewldude475 1 hour ago#57
    Go_Totodile posted...
    It hardly has enough extra features to justify buying it over an 8.

    This, or even a 6/6S/7
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